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When is the same - not the same...


Or as I like to say:

"It's the same thing... only different!"

Some time back I was looking for a low speed cranking reel. I fish with LH bait casters so the selection is a bit limited but... I started off just checking the ratio on the reels and... "It's the same thing only different." is never more true than when discussing reel retrieve ratios. Consider this. A reel advertised as 6.3:1 has the number of possible inches recovered per handle revolution.

6.3:1 line recovery could be:
24"
26"
27"
28"
30"

6.4:1 line recovery could be:
24.4"
26"
27"
28"
31"

All of the above are relative to low profile baitcasters.
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Re: When is the same - not the same...


What makes the difference spool size?

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Re: When is the same - not the same...


the diff is the ratio between the pinion gear and the main gear
the number of teeth has no bearing on the ratio its the diameter of the two gears that matters
assume the pinion gear is 1/4 in in diameter and the main drive gear is 1 in then it would be a 4:1 slow but real strong
now assume the pinion gear is 1/8in in diameter and the main drive gear is 1 in then it would be a 8:1 fast but not a lot of material in the small gear
the diff between a 6.3:1 and a 6.4:1 is real small and the diff in line take up shows that

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Re: When is the same - not the same...


The ratio is a bench mark reel manufacturers establish to provide a comparison. One is faster or slower than the other reel in the same family and a 6.3-1 in Quantum (zebco) or Pflueger probably will not have the same true ratios.

Then if you really want to get scientific the ratio constantly changes during a cast. The main factors are:

Spool width, line size (diameter), first or last segment of the cast ( when you cast the diameter of the spool changes to a smaller value. As you reel and the line builds you are effectively changing the diameter of the spool. On the firs take up you may be at a 6.3-1 ratio but as line builds the diameter changes and you may have a 6.9-1 (just figures for comparison not scientific figures) ratio as the Lent of line picked up on one revolution increases as the spool fills. In effect if you maintain a constant speed of cranking on the reel the lure actually speeds up the closer it get to the reel.

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actually the ratio doesn't change ever. the ratio of 6.3:1 or whatever remains a constant based on the gears what does change is the diameter of the spool as its growing and the amount of line retrieved per revolution
the spool still turns the same amount or revs per crank of the handle.

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The gear ratio does not however the actual ratio of line retrieved to revolutions, or the effective ratio does. That's my point. I did not say the gear ratio changes but if it read that way you are exactly correct. The gears do not change, unless you change them emoticon. What we as fishermen use ratio's for is primely for comparison or a bench mark for our selections.


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